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Jan


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28th november 1944 at 02.30 hrs bombs on Diffelen
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1. Why am I interested in the bombing on Diffelen the 28th November 1944? First, nobody knows why explicitely a bomb was dropped on a farm in the country in the early morning of 28th November 1944 at 2.30 o'clock local time. Secondly, during the making of a family-tree I was confronted with the death of the farmer and his man. They were instantly killed by a bomb while sleeping. His wife with a four week old girl and another nine-year old girl, survived. The farm was completely destroyed. No fire thus no incendiary bomb.
 
2. I know from www . raf . uk/bombercommand/nov44.html that there have been raids in the evening of the 27th November 1944 on Freiburg and Neuss. I assume for two reasons that these raids don't apply in this case, because first the route to these two targets in the southwestern parth of Germany would have been over south of the Netherlands/Belgium, and secondly all planes were back the same day before midnight 24.00 o'clock.
 
3. The bombers to lay mines off the Danish and Norwegian coasts may have their routes over the North Sea and thus don't apply.
 
4. The 7 Mossies to Ludwigshaven and the 5 to Neurenberg also don't aplly because these cities are also in the south of Germany.
 
5. So leaves as possible candidates the 67 Mossies on Berlin and the 7 on Hallendorf (Salzgitter). The bombing on Diffelen (community Hardenberg, Holland) lies almost on a straight line about 52 degrees NB from Bedford (UK) to Hallendorf and Berlin. I estimate that these Mossies flies together in squadrons. May be that one of them got engine problems or was hit by FLAK and had te leave the formation to return home. This single Mossie than may have dropped at 2.30 o'clock local time the bomb arbitrary, not knowing they made a direct hit on the farm. I don't have the time schedule of airborne, being on target and back home.
 
6. The 35 RCM sorties are unclaer. As an outsider I don't know what RCM sorties means. Radio/radar Counter Measures? Are they flying as single each to their own target? One of these Mossies may have flown over Diffelen at 2.30 o'clock local time. If so, I have another 35 candidates which may have flown over Diffelen. I don't have the time schedule of airborne, being on target and back home.
 
7. So are the 61 patrols. Each plane may have its own target area to patrol? One could have been designed to the Diffelen area? One of these Mossies may have flown over Diffelen at 2.30 o'clock local time. If so, I have another 61candidates which may have flown over Diffelen.  I don't have the time schedule of airborne, being on target and back home.
 
Conclusion: The numbers 5, 6 and 7 are possible. To find one out of 133 Mossies would be rather difficult if not impossible. 
 
The later bombing on Neuss in the evening of the 28th November 1944 is not applicable.
 
Regards
Jan Altena
Eendekroos 33
7772 MP Hardenberg
The Netherlands


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Jan wrote:
1. Why am I interested in the bombing on Diffelen the 28th November 1944? First, nobody knows why explicitely a bomb was dropped on a farm in the country in the early morning of 28th November 1944 at 2.30 o'clock local time. Secondly, during the making of a family-tree I was confronted with the death of the farmer and his man. They were instantly killed by a bomb while sleeping. His wife with a four week old girl and another nine-year old girl, survived. The farm was completely destroyed. No fire thus no incendiary bomb.
 
2. I know from www . raf . uk/bombercommand/nov44.html that there have been raids in the evening of the 27th November 1944 on Freiburg and Neuss. I assume for two reasons that these raids don't apply in this case, because first the route to these two targets in the southwestern parth of Germany would have been over south of the Netherlands/Belgium, and secondly all planes were back the same day before midnight 24.00 o'clock.
 
3. The bombers to lay mines off the Danish and Norwegian coasts may have their routes over the North Sea and thus don't apply.
 
4. The 7 Mossies to Ludwigshaven and the 5 to Neurenberg also don't aplly because these cities are also in the south of Germany.
 
5. So leaves as possible candidates the 67 Mossies on Berlin and the 7 on Hallendorf (Salzgitter). The bombing on Diffelen (community Hardenberg, Holland) lies almost on a straight line about 52 degrees NB from Bedford (UK) to Hallendorf and Berlin. I estimate that these Mossies flies together in squadrons. May be that one of them got engine problems or was hit by FLAK and had te leave the formation to return home. This single Mossie than may have dropped at 2.30 o'clock local time the bomb arbitrary, not knowing they made a direct hit on the farm. I don't have the time schedule of airborne, being on target and back home.
 
6. The 35 RCM sorties are unclaer. As an outsider I don't know what RCM sorties means. Radio/radar Counter Measures? Are they flying as single each to their own target? One of these Mossies may have flown over Diffelen at 2.30 o'clock local time. If so, I have another 35 candidates which may have flown over Diffelen. I don't have the time schedule of airborne, being on target and back home.
 
7. So are the 61 patrols. Each plane may have its own target area to patrol? One could have been designed to the Diffelen area? One of these Mossies may have flown over Diffelen at 2.30 o'clock local time. If so, I have another 61candidates which may have flown over Diffelen.  I don't have the time schedule of airborne, being on target and back home.
 
Conclusion: The numbers 5, 6 and 7 are possible. To find one out of 133 Mossies would be rather difficult if not impossible. 
 
The later bombing on Neuss in the evening of the 28th November 1944 is not applicable.
 
Regards
Jan Altena
Eendekroos 33
7772 MP Hardenberg
The Netherlands

 



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