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Aircraftsman 1st Class

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Hello.

A newbie here and would like to find some information about a Lancaster Crew Engineer by the name of Billy Butterfield.

I think his plane was shot down on it's way back from a Dresden raid.

Billy was my Father's cousin and he is in his late 70's and would love to know more if possible please?

How do I go about getting information please?



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As a start point, you could apply for his service record, which will provide information regarding his postings: www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records

Once you have this, you can use it to research the various training schools and operational squadrons that he was posted to.

In the meantime, if you can provide his forenames, we may be able to start digging around for you

Regards (and good luck with your research)

Pete

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Researching:

- CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334

- Aircrew Training WWII (Basic / Trade / Operational)

- The history of No. 35 Squadron [From Thetford to Scampton]

 

[Always looking for original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]



Aircraftsman 1st Class

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Okay and thank you.

I will attempt to get some more info and put it up here.



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Aircraftsman 1st Class

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Hello again.

I have managed to find some information about the chap who lost his young life in a Lancaster.

His name is DWH Butterfield and was a Pilot Officer, 12 Sqdn.

Would love to know some more detailed information for myself, but more importantly, my Father, and or any photos of his Crew/areoplane.

Many thanks.



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From Bomber Command Losses 1943.
Lancaster DV222.
2/3 October 1943. Target: Munich. Pilot, Sgt D. W. H. Butterfield and crew.
Shot down by Hptm Rudolph Sigmund of 3./NJG3, and crashed into the Walchensee at 00:06 hours.
Pilot, Sgt D. W. H. Butterfield +
Flight Engineer, Sgt J. A. Young +
Navigator, Sgt D. R. L. Crapper-Bovey +
Air Bomber, Sgt J. N. E. R. Labelle RCAF +
Wireless Operator, Sgt D. H. Strong +
Mid Upper Gunner, Sgt R. A. Waters +
Rear Gunner, Sgt J. Jackson +



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Hi,

Lancaster III DV222 (PH-G2) took off at 1824 from Wickenby (coded PH-G2 because there was an aircraft with the code PH-G already on the Squadron).  The Lancaster crashed in the Walchensee, a large island lake SE of Ohlstadt.  At least one body, that of Sgt Waters was recovered and taken to Jachenau, 20 km SW of Bad Tölz, for burial.  His remains were later moved a short distance to Durnbach War Cemetery. The others have no known graves. Sgt Crapper-Bovey came from Eldoret in Kenya.

The German site below has information about the crash and has a photo of a similar 12 Squadron Lancaster.

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=de&sp=nmt4&u=https://www.yumpu.com/de/document/view/7568218/das-wrackpuzzle-am-walchensee-abtauchen/5&usg=ALkJrhjCffoH5O5gjW5iT73HR07PG8aVdg

 

A photo of Sgt J.N.E.R Labelle RCAF, can be see at the link below. 

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/canadian-virtual-war-memorial/detail/1802944?Joseph%20Emile%20Napoleon%20Roger%20Labelle

 

 

Regards,

MikeH



-- Edited by MikeH on Wednesday 20th of December 2017 01:49:14 AM



-- Edited by MikeH on Wednesday 20th of December 2017 01:50:53 AM

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Aircraftsman 1st Class

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Thank you for the info so far.

I started a little research the other night and found this site.

http://www.is-expl.com/explorations/3

I would love to obtain a crew photo, if it is at all possible.

I notice there was a website showing many crew photos but I couldn't find Billy's.



-- Edited by BillyButterfield on Tuesday 19th of December 2017 03:42:53 PM

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Hi,

It might be worth contacting the Wickenby museum, who may be able to help.

http://www.wickenbymuseum.co.uk/Museum/Gallery.html

 

MikeH



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Thanks for that.

I will do. smile



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