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Date: Jan 4, 2011

Albert Witty

AW · Air Commodore

Hi Alan,
I've gone through all that i know, and like you i cannot find any record of him as being killed during WW2. There is only one Albert Witty registered on the CWGC and as you've probably seen yourself, he was Merchant Navy. It's quite possible that he did indeed serve with the RAF, but was not killed, stories do have a habit of changing over the years.
Alan.

k4kittycrew · Squadron Leader

Further to Alan W. comments, the name 'Witty' only appears in Chorleys RAF Losses on these two listed reports. Note that the initials are not the same as requested.

John

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Type	Lancaster
Serial Number	PB630
Squadron	582
X1D	60-A
Operation	Walcheren
Date 1	29th October 1944
Date 2	29th October 1944

Further Information

"Serial Range PA964 - PD196 This aircraft was one of 800 Lancasters ordered from A.V.Roe (Chadderton) Apr43 of which 756 were delivberedas 255 Mk.1s, 500 Mk.111s and one Lancastrian between May44 and Mar45 mainly from Chadderton with 87 from Yeadon. The Mk.111s were initially fitted with Merlin 38 engines except for the late production models with Merlin 224 engines. PB630 was a Mk.111 and was delivered to 635 Sqdn Sep44, joining 582 Sqdn Oct44. No operational history. No record of total hours. Airborne 1145 from Little Staughton to mark gun positions on the island. Lost without trace. All are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial. F/O Hodgson was the son of Capt George Hodgson. F/O L.F.Croft RNZAF KIA Sgt W.J.H.Roberts KIA F/O K.Hodgson KIA F/L E.S.Dawson DFC KIA F/S R.C.Mahoney KIA Sgt R.L.Po**** KIA Sgt D.D.Wilson KIA F/S W.T.Witty KIA No accounting for the eight-man crew. "

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Lancaster ME675 Information

Type	Lancaster
Serial Number	ME675
Squadron	49
X1D	EA-R
Operation	Wesseling
Date 1	21st June 1944
Date 2	22nd June 1944

Further Information

"Serial Range ME554 - ME868 This aircraft was one of 250 Lancaster Mk.1s ordered from Metro- Vick May42 and delivered from Nov43 to Jan44 with Merlin 22 engines initially installed up to ME639 and Merlin 24 engines from ME640 except for ME668/9 with Merlin 22 engines. ME675 was delivered to 49 Squadron Mar44. ME675 took part in the following Key Raids: Berlin 24/25Mar44; Nuremberg 30/31Mar44; Schweinfurt 26/27Apr44; Mailly-le-Camp 3/4May44; Duisberg 21/22May44. When lost this aircraft had a total of 258 hours. ME675 was one of six 49 Squadron Lancasters lost on this operation. See LL900; ME808; ND683; ND695; NE128. Crashed 2303 21Jun44 from Fiskerton. Crashed near Lage Mierde (Noord-Brabant), a Dutch village close to the border with Belgium and roughly 23 km WSW from the centre of Eindhoven, where all are buried in Woensel General Cemetery. F/L Hill held a BSc degree and was on the 9th operation of his second tour; his crew were on their 9th operation. F/L J.R.Hill KIA

Sgt G.F.Witty KIA F/O K.W.Jones RNZAF KIA Sgt D.McF F Bell KIA Sgt T.B.Whewell KIA Sgt T.A.Hall KIA F/S G.F.Wood KIA "

Date: Apr 1, 2011

Hi Alan,

Your uncle is listed at the Common Wealth Warcemetery as

Sgt George Frederick Witty, SRN 2204999. age 34, son of George and Ethel Witty from HuIl; husband of Annie Witty from Hull.

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2618250

He was shot above Eindhoven at a hight of 4000 meter and crashed near Wettenseind, exact location is still unknown. I will see if I can find more information about the location.

He belonged to the 49 (RAF) Squadron on he and the rest of the crew were KIA on the 22 nd of June 1944.

Flight Off. John Rowland Hill, pilot, age 29, son of George William and Ammelie Maria HilI from Holbrook, Derbyshire.

-Sgt. George Frederick Witty, age 34, son of George and Ethel Witty from HuIl; husband of Annie Witty uit Hull.

-Flight Off. Kenneth Walton Jones, navigator age 27, son of Harold Walton Jones and Rebecca Jones; husband of Eva Bentley Jones from Wellington City, NieuwZeeland

- Sgt. Thomas Birthswistle Whewell, age 21, son of Clarence Mary Ann Whewell from Gorton, Lancashire.

-Sgt. Thomas Allbert Hall, age 23, son of James and Minnie Hall from Waterfall, Staffordshire.

-Flight Sgt. David Mcfarlane Forsyth Bell

-Flight Sgt. George Frederick Wood

I'm making pictures for the Dolores Cross Project of the graves from the RNZAF members. They are also buried on the cemetery in Woensel. I you like I can see if I can find the grave of Sgt Witty and make a picture.

I believe this G.F. Witty is your oncle but to be sure you have to find his registration number Can you please see if you can find a registration number?

Kind Regards,

Astrid

Date: Apr 2, 2011

Hi Alan,

Found someone who did research about the the crashed near Eindhoven. One of them was plane of F/O Jones. About 30 planes crashed in the same area. That´s why there is a bit of confusion about which plane crashed where.

The researcher is Mr. Foppe D. de Lange and he has been in contact with the family of F/O Jones in NZ. He might have more information for you. His email: f.delang@onsnet.nu

Name:	JONES, KENNETH WALTON
Initials:	K W
Nationality:	New Zealand
Rank:	Flying Officer (Nav.)
Regiment/Service:	Royal New Zealand Air Force
Unit Text:	49 (R.A.F.) Sqdn
Age:	27
Date of Death:	22/06/1944
Service No:	425576
Additional information:	Son of Harold Walton Jones and Mina Rebecca Jones; husband of Eva Bentley Jones, of Wellington City, New Zealand.
Casualty Type:	Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference:	Plot KK. Coll. grave 85-88.
Cemetery:	EINDHOVEN (WOENSEL) GENERAL CEMETERY

Kind regards

Astrid

Date: Apr 6, 2011

Hi Albert,

f.delang@onsnet.nu is the person who you have to get in contact with. He did research on this subject

Kind Regards

Astrid

Date: Sep 26, 2011

David McFarlane Forsyth Bell was my great uncle. I would be very interested to find out what the inscription on his grave is.

G Bell

adrian1 · Leading Aircraftsman

Anonymous wrote:
David McFarlane Forsyth Bell was my great uncle. I would be very interested to find out what the inscription on his grave is.
G Bell

Hello Mr G.Bell,Alan,

Would you like to contact me a.zantvoortATonsneteindhoven.nl and please replace AT to @. I have further info for you and also I am in touch with the family of F/Lt J.Hill.

Regards,

Adrian

-- Edited by adrian1 on Tuesday 24th of January 2012 03:06:33 PM