622 Squadron Accident September 1944

Date: Mar 28, 2011

622 Squadron Accident September 1944

Linda · Air Commodore

Hi Claire!

F/O M.Hogg RAFVR

F/O E Hooker RAFVR

Sgt J DeAngelis

F/S F Robinson RAFVR

F/O A Gill RAFVR

F/O H Pritchard RNZAF

F/S J Adams RNZAF

F/S G Fitness RNZAF

Lancaster I LM 167 GI-N took off from base at Mildenhall on a training exercise as formation leader and was lost as it collided with another 622 Squadron Lancaster(Lancaster I LL 802 GI-M) piloted by F/O C.James RAFVR

Entered cloud and both collided,crashing at 1605 at Wormingford,6 miles NW of Colchester,Essex.

Dave_Richardson · Flight Sergeant

Hi Claire

The missions your great uncle flew on will be recorded in the Squadron's Operational Record book. These can be obtained from the National Archive at Kew or you could try contacting the 622 Squadron Association historian, Howard Sandall and ask what information he has. Howard's contact details can be found here: http://www.mildenhallregister.stirlingpilot.org.uk/Milden6.htm

To find out more about his RAF career, when he enlisted, where he served, his training etc.' you need to send for a copy of his service record (There will be a cost of £30 and a rather long wait for the information I'm afraid) from here:

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/AboutDefence/WhatWeDo/Personnel/ServiceRecords/MakingARequestForInformationHeldOnThePersonnelRecordsOfDeceasedServicePersonnel.htm

Dave

Date: Mar 28, 2011

Hi Linda,

Thank you so much for your help. It's nice to know more about what happened. You've given me lots more information to work with! I really appreciate it.

Best wishes,

Claire.

Dave_Richardson · Flight Sergeant

Hi Claire

The 622 Squadron Association historian, Howard Sandall, may also be be able to help. He can be contacted here:

http://www.mildenhallregister.stirlingpilot.org.uk/Milden6.htm

If you want to know more about your great uncle's RAF career you could send for his service record from here:

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/AboutDefence/WhatWeDo/Personnel/ServiceRecords/MakingARequestForInformationHeldOnThePersonnelRecordsOfDeceasedServicePersonnel.htm

Dave

Linda · Air Commodore

Pleased to be able to add something for you.

I shall be looking into both crews so hopefully,maybe find out more.

MikeH · Air Vice Marshall

Hi Claire/Linda,

details from the GWGC and the grave of F/Sgt Robinson below.

http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=1990946

Mike H

Date: Mar 29, 2011

Hi Mike,

Thank you so much for your help too. I managed to find out where he was buried from the the Roll of Honour (Lincolnshire) website. I didn't know that there was a photograph of it though!

Best wishes,

Claire.

MikeH · Air Vice Marshall

Hi Claire,

details regarding the three RNZAF crew below:-

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/general/Cenotaph/23859.detail?Ordinal=3&c_surname_search=fitness&c_warconflict_search=world+war+ii,+1939-1945

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/general/Cenotaph/25845.detail?Ordinal=1&c_surname_search=pritchard&c_warconflict_search=world+war+ii,+1939-1945

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/general/Cenotaph/20266.detail?Ordinal=20&c_surname_search=adams&c_warconflict_search=world+war+ii,+1939-1945

Mike H

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Howard622 · Flight Lieutenant

Hello,

I am the 622 Sqdn Historian and I have a lot of information regarding your granfather's crash on 20th Sept 1944 including a lot of material within my book that is due for release in the summer.

I would be delighted to share the information with you.

Regards

Howard Sandall

Date: Sep 16, 2011

Hi Howard,

Please accept my apologies for the delay in replying to your message. I have not accessed the Bombercrew.com Forum for some time.

I would love to learn more about the crash in which my grandfather's brother was involved on 20 September 1944. Has your book been released yet?

Best wishes,

Claire.

Date: Sep 17, 2011

Dear Claire,

I was hoping that you would respond, my book is released in the USA and out here on 1st October. I have quite a bit of uinformation to share with you perhaps due to the amount you would be better responding to me via my personal email : enroute62@aol.com

Looking forward to hearing from you

Regards

Howard Sandall

Howard622 · Flight Lieutenant

Dear Claire,

I should have logged in first, as previously mentioned I have a lot of information to share, perhaps to much via the forum, can you contact me on my home email: enroute62@aol.com.

Looking forward to hearing from you

Regards

Howard Sandall

Date: Sep 19, 2011

Dear Howard,

Thank you for providing me with your e-mail address. I have sent you an e-mail so you should now have my e-mail address.

Best wishes,

Claire.

Georgina65 · Aircraftsman 1st Class

Howard

I also have an interest in the 622 Squadron accident in September 1944, as my Mum's first husband was Claude (Roy) James, the pilot of LL802. There seem to be two stories about the incident - one says it was a training accident, the other verson says the collision occured when the plane was returning from a raid. Do you have any information that can definitely confirm what happened?

Thanks

Georgina

Howard622 · Flight Lieutenant

Hello Georgina,

The incident was definitely an accident which occurred due to low cloud conditions and the squadron flying in close formation. I have all the records for the crash and several eye witness accounts in my book including my uncle's who was sitting in the reare turret of a Lancaster and witnessed the whole event.

Is there any chance you can drop me an email on enroute62@aol.com, I am not sure how to attached photos or documents in this format.

Regards

Howard

Date: Dec 10, 2013

hi!

book:"Hell On Earth",by Mel Rolfe,edited by Grub Street,pages 133-134...They were going on a bombing mission to Calais in a formation of 3,among other 600...more details there...Good luck!

Regards from Tenerife

José-luis

Date: Dec 10, 2013

hi again!

there was something interesting about a girl,so called..."the chop blonde"...misterious and superstitious...every body steered away from her,but they didn't...

regards

Tenerife

sandrela · Aircraftsman 1st Class

I'd love to pull together a detailed summary of my Grandfather's service some day soon, so I can pass it down to our next generation and share the stories of our personal family hero.

Date: Jul 28, 2014

Hi there I would Like to find out the Plane my grandfather was on GI ? ?????

His Name is Harry Clive Edgar Thurston , RNZAF - Flying Officer , Navigator ... here is the site my father made. http://en.ww2awards.com/person/48565

I am designing a template for War Thunder game, worlds top flight sim . I have made The Captains fancy JN-M and now I am trying to gain information on a particual plane from 622 or 7th that my grandfather flew in, and hopefully gain information like if there was any nose art etc...

Many Thanks

My email is greg.thurston@live.com.au