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Hi Guys.

New member just found a great site.

 

Im looking for any information on Lancaster LM572 EA-P from 49 Squadron.

 

My great grandfather Flt Lt J.F. Judd was a member of the crew and is sadly buried in Poix de la Somme church yard with the remaining members of his crew.

Does anyone have access or any information regarding the aircraft or crash site.

Ive pretty much exhausted the leads I had in finding this info and would really appreciate any help or info you guys could supply.



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Hi and welcome, This bomber was part of a force attacking V-1 sites at Pommerval, a large number of the attacking force were shot down by night fighters, so far LM572 has not been matched with any claim, but I'll check and see if it has been matched.

You might like to try the  Canadian Archives and get the details of Sgt D Reid, they provid this information for free if you request one a year. Do you have a photo of the crew?

Good luck with your research.

 

Regards,

 

John.



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Hi Adam,

Upon checking it seems that they were shot down by Oblt Adolf Kaiser of 1 NJG2 for his 13 victoiry he would go on to claim 16 victories before the war ended and survive.

I hope that helps.

Regards,

 

John.



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Wow . That's the first new piece of information found in an age! Can I ask your source for finding out about 1/NJG2 Oblt Adolf Kaiser B17. The crew were a mix of veterans and rookies, at the date of the crash the aircraft only had 92 hours on the airframe. My great grandfather was an experienced veteran of the war having joined in '39 and seen quite a bit of combat. Got the chance to visit the church in Poix de la Somme a few years back with the family which was a teat and humbling experience being the first direct family to have visited. Still trying to track down some details on the crash site, any crew or squadron/aircraft photos I can. Can add to that details of Adolf Kaiser now too. Again photos or details. Appreciate your time guys.

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This crew were on their first operation with 49sqdn when lost. The pilot, Taylor, did his 2nd dicky trip for experience, with Sq/Ldr Botting, to Wesseling on 21st June. Can i ask why you beleive this crew were a mixture of veterans and rookies.



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49_sqn_blida_shuttle_mission_june_1943.jpg

This is the only shot i have of the Lanc LM572 EA-P I can find.

Not great but all ive got :(

 

No reason to disprove my thinking of a mixed crew unless proved otherwise.

Really keen on finding out more of the aircraft and Adolf Kaiser.



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Hi Adam,

The information on the night fighter pilot I got from Dr Theo Boiten resources for his second edition of NJG war diaries, which I am helping him with. Could you contact me off board on harley.158ATbigpond.com and replace the AT with the usual and I'll give you more. Could you also send that photo you posted in at least 300 pdi. Thanks looking forward to hear from you.

 

Regards,

 

John.



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Hi, I'm new to this site and the research of heathy12 can help me

I'm the president of the French Remember Neufchatel en Bray in Normandy, I'm looking for places of death of three members of the crew of Lancaster 

LM572 died on the night of June 24 to 25, 1944 their names are: Dennis Alfred Wilson, Robert Thompson and James Frederick Judd, they belonged to 49 Sqdn. 

The CWGC indicate as the place of death Massy in Normandy, but there is no mention of these three deaths on civil status registers Massy. Why are they buried Poix de Picardie? (which is 60 kms from Massy) and a website indicates that the aircraft crashed Poix de Picardie http://www.rytonwarmemorials.org.uk/casualtylisting.php?firstname=First+Name&lastname=t&title=Search+Results&Submit=Soumettre&page=83

Thank you for your help

Best regards



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Thanks for your reply.

Im still on a mission to obtain information like the crash site and to find out why the crews remains ended up so far away from the crash site.

it is still a mystery which I'm hoping to find out still.

please message me heathy12@hotmail.com it would be interesting to find out what information you have.

many thanks.



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Dany,

           As far as i am aware, there is no known crash site for LM572, but it would be an indication as to the locality of the burials. It would be probable therefore, that the crash site is in fact somewhere near Poix as the website suggests.



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Hello, Thanks to Heathy12 and to AlanW, for your replies.

Upon checking, the CWGC does not indicate the place of the death of three airmen of the LM572, but I have a testimony on the village of Massy which I transmit by email to Heathy12, this testimony must be verified, another inhabitant does not agree.

Best regards,
Dany


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