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Guy D


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Hello to all,

On july 04 1943, a Vickers Wellington was shot down 3km south of Louveigné (Belgium) by the Ltn Johannes HAGER.

Could you please tell me more informations such as the plane number and the crew list?

Many thanks in advance,

Guy

 



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John W


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Hi Guy,

The Wellington was from 466 Sqn RAAF HF569 the crew were;

P/O J W Edmonds DFC +

P/O C Halliday +

Sgt P V Cook +

P/O F H Levi +

P/O P P G O'Brien +

All the crew were English. It was their 30th Op. It was Hager's 5th victory he would survive the war with a total of 42 victories.

 

Regards,

 

John.



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Guy D


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Hello John,

Many thanks for your respone, but, I am mixed up.

On the following website, I read that the HF569 was sot down by Ltn Paul Zorner near Neerhespen (Belgium) which is far from Louveigné.

http://www.awm.gov.au/catalogue/research_centre/pdf/rc09125z015_1.pdf

Could you please confirm your information?

Bests regards,

Guy

 

 

 



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John W


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Hi Guy,

I based my conclusion on Dr Theo Boiten excellent book on the Nachtjagd War Diaries Vol I. Lt Johannes Hager claimed a Wellington at 01.01hrs 3 kms south of Louveigne, 15kms south of Liege. This matches the loss of 466 Sqn Wellington HF569.

Oblt Paul Zorner claimed a Wellington 2km east of Neerhespen/St Trond at 01.09hrs. This matches the loss of 166 Wellington HF595.

 

I hope that helps.

 

Cheers,

 

John.



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Guy D


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Hello John,

Many thanks once more for your information.

Please excuse me for my mistake, a typing error (or reading error) with the 569/595).

Bests regards,

Guy



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John W


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Hi Guy

No worries mate, I can give a list of the Ops they went on if you need it.

 

Cheers,

 

John.



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Guy D


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Hello John,

It will be nice if yopu can send me the list of Ops.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

 

Guy



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John W


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Hi Guy,

 

Here are the ops this crew did;

1. Gardening Terschelling 21/1/43.

2. Bombing Lorient 26/1/43.

3. Bombing Emden 30/1/43.

4. Gardening Schiermonikoog 12-13/2/43.

5. Bombing Cologne 14/2/43.

6. Bombing Lorient 16/2/43.

7. Bombing Wilhelmshaven 19/2/43.

8. Bombing Hamburg 3/3/43.

9. Bombing Emden 5/3/43.

10. Bombing Essen 12/3/43.

11. Bombing Kiel 4/4/43.

12. Bombing Duisberg 8/4/43.

13. Bombing Frankfurt 10-11/4/43.

14. Bombing Stuttgart 14-15/4/43.

15. Bombing Mannheim 16-17/4/43.

16. Bombing Duisberg 26/4/43.

17. Bombing Duisberg 12-13/5/43.

18. Bombing Bochum  13-14 /5/43.

19. Bombing Dusseldorf 25-26/5/43.

20. Bombing Essen 27-28/5/43.

21. Bombing Wuppertal 28-29/5/43.

22. Bombing Dusseldorf 11-12/6/43.

23. Bombing Krefield 21-22/6/43.

24. Bombing Mulheim 22-23/6/43.

25. Bombing Wuppertal 24-25/6/43.

26. Bombing Gelsenkirchen 25-26/6/43.

27. Bombing Cologne 28-29/6/43.

28. Bombing Cologne 3-4/7/43. Failed to Return.

 

Cheers,

 

John.

21. Bombing 

 

 



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Guy D


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Hello John,

Many thanks for the list.

Bests regards

Guy

 



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John W


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Hi Guy,

Glad to help, if you need to contact me I am at

harleyDOT158ATbigpondDOTtcom

replace the DOT and AT with the usual.

 

Regards,

 

John.



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Hello ,

 

Here some information:

Lt Hager Johannes / Uffz Von Bergen Hubertus / Fw Körgschen Robert  from 6./NJG1 were flying from St-Trond airfield in Belgium.The crew off HF-569 were buried at the allied cemetery on the airfield of St-Trond.

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Hello ,

 

Here some information:

Lt Hager Johannes / Uffz Von Bergen Hubertus / Fw Körgschen Robert  from 6./NJG1 were flying from St-Trond airfield in Belgium.The crew off HF-569 were buried at the allied cemetery on the airfield of St-Trond.

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Guy D


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Many thanks to Moon for the infos

Cheers

Guy



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Hello there,

I hope you people are still alive and healthy

This gave some trouble:
there are these sources that say 466 Squadron HF569 crashed at Neerhespen:
www.belgians-remember-them.eu/crew-vbr-neer2.php
www.466and462squadrons.com/hf569.htm

Whilst 166 Squadron HF595 is also said to crash at Neerhespen!

Do you guys know if they both came down at Neerhespen?

@Moon
to correct you, the Nachtjagd Combat Archive 1943 part two gives the information that Leutnant Hager was active with the Gruppenstab of the II./NJG 1, not the 6. Staffel.
The book mentions only Leutnant Hager and his regular Bordfunker Unteroffizier von Bergen, but no Bordschütze. This indicates that he was flying a Bf 110 G-4 and not a Do 217 as he previously did.

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