166 Squadron RAF Kirmington help available to researchers

Date: Mar 13, 2016

RE: 166 Squadron RAF Kirmington help available to researchers

Date: Mar 14, 2016

Have a look at this website http://home.cogeco.ca There are quite a lot of photos of crews and lists of men lost etc.

Date: Mar 14, 2016

Sorry try this.... http://home.cogeco.ca/~dswallow4/index.htm

Date: Mar 14, 2016

Dear Sir,

I am making family enquiries about a late uncle of mine, Flight Sergeant Kenneth Frederick Bull who was part of a crew of a Lancaster,tasked with being part of a force whose target was Bochum in the Ruhr on the night of 4/5th November 1944 and of whom, nothing further was heard of after take off. After the end of the war, remaining members of his family emigrated to Australia and now some later members of the family are planning to visit the U.K. later this year. I made certain enquiries with various agencies but to no avail, so was wondering whether you might be able to shed some light on what might have happenned to this crew.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kind Regards

Graham R.Withers-(graham.r.withers@talktalk.net

barnsley · Air Commodore

FLIGHT SERGEANT K. F. BULL 1398341 RAF AIR BOMBER KILLED IN ACTION 4.011.44

F/Sgt Bull was the Air Bomber in the crew ofF/O J. R. Wilson. The crew arrived at 166 Squadron on the 20/07/1944. They had completed 26 operations before they were shot down. I believe they were probably brought down over the sea. If you would like further information contact me on mjc41ukATyahoo.co.uk a photograph of the crews lancaster in flight during a daylight raid on Le Havre 10/09/44 (they are flying it) appears in one of the Garbutt Golding books on the Lancaster.

Cheers B

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adneycandy · Aircraftsman 1st Class

who live in my village, who i have known for many years, but has just been brought to my attention by his nephew that his uncle served on 166 sqn and was lost on april 3, 1943.

alstonamos · Aircraftsman 1st Class

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EdgarA · Aircraftsman 1st Class

For the attention of SimonJ

back in 2013 you were seeking information on your grandfather E.Farrington. He was my father's skipper. My father (L.P.Allen although wrongly entered as S.F.Allen) was his navigator. Maybe we can swap info. contact me on iamedgara@gmail.com

Cheers

EdgarA

Date: Apr 23, 2016

barnsley wrote:
Anyone out there with queries about 166 squadron,particularly family members with connections to this squadron,I would be happy to help.
25 years of research into the squadron means I should be able to answer most questions about aircrew who served with them.Best Wishes,B

Hi, I am Denise from New Zealand, enquiring about P/O Trevor Wilmot Boyce who was shot down over The Netherlands June 18, 1944. aged 21 years. He is buried in Epe Cemetery. along with other crew members. My mothers, his cousin, remembers waving him off to war as a 10 year old. We would be very interested in any further details you can share of his time with RAF 166.

barnsley · Air Commodore

P/O Trevor Wilmot Boyce Killed in action 12/06/1944

Hi, thank you for your post. P/O Boyce and his crew arrived at 166 Squadron on 12/05/44. He flew 9 operations before his crew were shot down on a raid to Gelsenkirchen. Their Lancaster crashed in the province of Gelderland, the Netherlands after being shot down by a night fighter. There were no survivors. email me directly for more information mjc41uk@yahoo.co.uk

Date: Apr 26, 2016

Thank you so very much for your prompt and helpful information.

I have emailed you as suggested.

Kind regards

Denise

Date: May 30, 2016

Good evening, I would be interested for any photos of my father HA Standen who was shot down in March 1944 and then was at stalag luft 1. Also does anyone know how they returned home?
Anything would be very much appreciated.
Thanks very much
Jeremy Standen

alieneyes · Group Captain

Anonymous wrote:
Good evening, I would be interested for any photos of my father HA Standen who was shot down in March 1944 and then was at stalag luft 1. Also does anyone know how they returned home?
Anything would be very much appreciated.
Thanks very much
Jeremy Standen

Jeremy,

The Americans and Commonwealth POWs of Stalag Luft 1, Barth, were flown home (all 12,000+ of them) between 12-15 May 1945 by B17s Fortresses of the USAAF.

YouTube has video clips of them loading into the aircraft.

Regards,

Dave

Date: May 31, 2016

The 3 crew who became POW's are Plt Off D M Smithers-Sgt E A Bradshaw- Flt Sgt R D Story.

barnsley · Air Commodore

SGT H.A. STANDEN RAF P.O.W. Nurnberg raid 30/31/03.1944.

Sgt Standen (later Pilot Officer) was the mid upper gunner in the Taylor crew (the person posting above has the wrong crew, they were lost in 1945) who were shot down on the Nurnberg raid of 30/31.3.1944. Sgt Standen had originally been the gunner in another crew but was off sick when this crew crashed after returning from a Berlin raid in December 1943. The gunner who was flying in his place who was killed in the crash came from the Taylor crew hence Sgt Standen was allocated to them. He flew 18 operations, including the last one, on 166 Squadron. Email me on mjc41uk@yahoo.co.uk for more info if you wish.

J Standen · Aircraftsman 1st Class

Hi Dave , thanks for that. I thought it was just the USAF. My father was debriefed at west mallimg despite being based in Lincolnshire.

cheers

jeremy

J Standen · Aircraftsman 1st Class

Hi Barnsley, thanks ever so much- very much appreciated. Will drop you a line separately

best regards

jeremy

Spurius · Aircraftsman 1st Class

Hi Barnsley,

Firstly thank you for your dedication to helping researchers like me!!

My Uncle was in the RAF (467 & 97 Sqs) and was lost on 29th July 1943 over Hamburg. So

I am currently researching the whole of Operation Gomorrah which consisted of the 4 raids on

Hamburg July/August 1943. I am a member of 467 Squadron Association.

I have 2 requests for help regarding 166 Squadron planes:

1) 2nd August - Wellington HE578 AS-G Pilot W/O Burton - listed as no trace after mine-laying - is there

any updated information on this plane's loss?

2) 2nd August - Wellington HF455 Pilot W/O Newman - crashed shortly after take-off from Kirmington.

I need to know:

a) The names of his crew on the 2nd

b) The Squadron Code for HF455

c) The number op they were on

d) Was this aircraft written off after this crash or repaired?

Hope you can help!!

Barry

barnsley · Air Commodore

HI Barry, email me on mjc41ukATyahoo.co.uk and I will send you some scans. B

Date: Jul 10, 2016

Hiz)

Just seen your post regarding your great granddad being wireless operator on L love with Oakie Walker as pilot. I have to tell you that my Dad, Sgt Dennis Lines was wireless operator on L Love from August 1944 and flew 31 ops. The navigator in the crew was Dick Edmunds (Canada) Oakie Walker (NZ) and the rest of the crew were RAF. We recently returned from NZ where we met Oakie Walker's son and I have met Dick Edmunds when he visited my Dad back in the 1980's in St. Albans. If you have any pictures of the complete Walker crew I would love to have a copy as I have pictures of my Dad in uniform but none of the complete crew or of L Love.

Look forward to hearing from anyone who may have such a picture.

Date: Aug 13, 2016

Hello,

My great uncle F/O Charles Defraigne flew with 166 sqn in 1945.

I would like to know if it is possible to have some info, photos, and so on about his short stay in this sqn.

He sadly was shot down in his Lancaster NG114 on the 24 of march 1945.

Could you help?

Thank you in advance.

Best regards.

Béatrice.

Date: Aug 13, 2016

Hello,

My great uncle F/O Charles Defraigne flew with 166 sqn in 1945.

I would like to know if it is possible to have some info, photos, and so on about his short stay in this sqn.

He sadly was shot down in his Lancaster NG114 on the 24 of march 1945.

Could you help?

Thank you in advance.

Best regards.

Béatrice.

if infos please mail is miguelvdvp@gmail.com

alieneyes · Group Captain

Quite a bit of information in the CVWM entry on F/Sgt Inman of this crew:

www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/canadian-virtual-war-memorial/detail/2055753

Regards,

Dave

Date: Aug 14, 2016

Thank you very much for these infos...

If you ever find anything on Defraigne that would be nice...

best regards.

Béatrice.

miguelvdvp@gmail.com

EdgarA · Aircraftsman 1st Class

Can you help please.

I posted a query about my father (L.P.Allen 1591225 aka S.F.Allen by mistake).

I have several replies (e.g. Béatrice has just replied to a topic you have subscribed to entitled 166 Squadron RAF Kirmington help available to researchers on Bombercrew.com Forum.) but I don't know how to access them.

The link given simply takes me to the 166 squadron home page. I should be able to reply but don't know how!

Please reply to edgara00@gmail.com or iamedgara@gmail.com

Thanks

barnsley · Air Commodore

F/O Defraigne Belgian Pilot killed in action 24/03/45

Dear Beatrice, F/O Defraigne and crew arrived on 166 Squadron in March 1945. They flew 3 operations before the final one when they were probably shot down by predicted flak over the target. Only the Rear Gunner managed to get out of the plane and parachute to safety. I have emailed you with some more information. B

Date: Aug 21, 2016

Good evening,

Thank you very much, I will study the documents in your mail.

I will also look for some pictures to add to your files.

Best regards.

Béatrice.

Date: Aug 29, 2016

I have soms items of this plane in My collection.

Greetings Erik Zwiggelaar

Museum Somewhere in the Netherlands 1939-1945

Www.ergensinnederland1939-1945.nl

Date: Aug 29, 2016

Is have soms parts of the Wellington HE 346 in My collection

Erik Zwiggelaar

Www.ergensinnederland1939-1945.nl

bananamafia · Aircraftsman 1st Class

Hi everyone, i'm trying to do a little research into Air gunner Sgt David Wilson Inglis, of 166 squadron.
I know about his sad passing returning from bombing mission over berlin on 16 December 1943.
I wondered if there was any way of finding out how many missions he had flown before this?
and if it is possible that he was, at one time, part of the crew of "s" for sugar??

any help appreciated.
kind regards
Ed

barnsley · Air Commodore

SGT INGLIS K.I.A 16.12.1943 Killed in crash on return from ops Berlin

Thank you for your post on my 166 Squadron thread.

Sgt Inglis was originally part of a crew captained by F/O F. Taylor R.A.F. On the night of the 16/17.12.43 he was flying as 'spare bod' with Browns crew presumably because their regular gunner was sick. Their Lancaster crashed in thick fog in North Lincolnshire. Their were no survivors. The Taylor crew, with Brown's original rear gunner then attached to them, were subsequently shot down on the infamous Nurnberg raid in late March 1944. The rear gunner survived to become a Prisoner of War.

22.11.43 Berlin (With Taylor crew)

26.11.43 Berlin (ditto)

02.12.43 Berlin(mission abandoned-ditto)

16.12.43 Berlin(with Brown, A.E. crew-Crashed on return)

Hope this helps.

I would be interested to know your connection to Sgt Inglis.

You can email me directly on mjc41uk@yahoo.co.uk if you wish.

B

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Date: Sep 14, 2016

Hi Barnsley

This is Spurius

Do you have any information relevant to my post?

Thanks

Barry

(Spurius)

barnsley · Air Commodore

Newman crew and Burton crew Wellingtons

Newman was on his 13th operation. I do not know the code letter of the Wellington or whether it was written off. It crash landed in a barley field 5 minutes after take off. Crew uninjured but a/c badly damaged.

Sgt Jackson Nav

Sgt Holmes A/B

Sgt Harrop WOP

F/Sgt Phillips R/G

Burton crew crashed into N. Sea at approx 02.10 hours. No further info available.

B

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Date: Sep 15, 2016

Hi there,

Many thanks for the reply. All info is helpful!!

You did suggest you were going to send me some scans? Did you get my email?

Spurius

barnsley · Air Commodore

SGT INGLIS K.I.A 16.12.1943 Killed in crash on return from ops Berlin

Thank you for your post on my 166 Squadron thread.

Sgt Inglis was originally part of a crew captained by F/O F. Taylor R.A.F. On the night of the 16/17.12.43 he was flying as 'spare bod' with Browns crew presumably because their regular gunner was sick. Their Lancaster crashed in thick fog in North Lincolnshire. Their were no survivors. The Taylor crew, with Brown's original rear gunner then attached to them, were subsequently shot down on the infamous Nurnberg raid in late March 1944. The rear gunner survived to become a Prisoner of War.

22.11.43 Berlin (With Taylor crew)

26.11.43 Berlin (ditto)

02.12.43 Berlin(mission abandoned-ditto)

16.12.43 Berlin(with Brown, A.E. crew-Crashed on return)

Hope this helps.

I would be interested to know your connection to Sgt Inglis.

You can email me directly on mjc41uk@yahoo.co.uk if you wish.

B

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Date: Sep 15, 2016

Assisting a friend, (Ian Tulett) in tracing any photographs of Herbert Stanley Douglas Tulett Sgt R/G Number1711838 KIA 12/05/44, Lancaster ME779 AS=S. I have all the gen re his death, Luftwaffe pilot etc etc however my friend holds no record/photographs of his Uncle. Stanley was from a family of 9, he and his siblings spanned both World Wars, all male, just 4 survived after 1945.

Any help would be appreciated.

Best Regards

Tony Fellows 01732 762618

RAF Ret V Force Bomber/Strike Command (Valiant/Vulcan

barnsley · Air Commodore

Sgt Herbert Stanley Douglas Tulett

Thank you for your post. Sadly I do not have much information on this crew. Many years ago I traced one of the survivors but he was not very forthcoming in terms of assisting my research. Sgt Smith's medals were sold on ebay a while back but there was no crew picture accompanying them. Sorry to draw a blank for you. B

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bananamafia · Aircraftsman 1st Class

many thanks for the info about DW inglis, it is very helpful.

i found certain items belonging to his wife Mary at a recent house clearance auction, and amongst it are a few of his pre war service details (royal Scots) and love letters.

I think i also have a training, or gun camera film relate to him also, i have sent that off to be transferred to DVD

barnsley · Air Commodore

SGT INGLIS K.I.A 16.12.1943 Killed in crash on return from ops Berlin

If you email me on mjc41uk@yahoo.co.uk I may have more info. I would be interested to know Sgt Inglis' pre-war service history. B

Date: Sep 23, 2016

Good Afternoon John,

My name is John Davis, I came across your email on 100548.activeboard.com, as I am doing some research into how many sorties Harry and his crew did during the war. Harry Burgoyne was my uncle.

I see your email is dated 8th January 2014 and that you wanted information for the Lincoln Bomber Command Memorial, It may be to late for this project, but if you should require any information about my uncle for the (if it is not to late) Lincoln Memorial or the metropolitan museum. Please contact me at jcd@talk21.com.

Yours sincerely,

John Davis.

barnsley · Air Commodore

BURGOYNE CREW

Thanks for your post. I have sent you an email. B

EmmaScott · Aircraftsman 1st Class

Hi I have emailed you regarding a particular plane which has a significance to our family. It's ND401 Lancaster shot down March 1944. I researched it back in 2010 and hit a wall but it appears there's now more info and possibly photos of parts of the recovered plane. Please get in touch with me. emmascott4684@googlemail.com. this would mean slot to my family as my grandmother had a relationship with a crew member which we only discovered after her death. I researched it on her behalf as she never knew what happened to him

barnsley · Air Commodore

LANCASTER ND401 MISSING BERLIN 24/25.03.44

Thank you for your post . I have sent you a message via email. B

Martyn · Aircraftsman 1st Class

My mother was in the WAAF during WWII and I have always retained a keen interest in the history. Where we lived in Maidenhead we had a neighbour named Helen Bailey and her husband was Sgt (Air Gunner) Albert Ronald Bailey 1603676 aged 26 and he was lost on February 20th 1944 with 166 Sqdn. and is buried in the commonwealth war graves Cemetery in Berlin - I hope to visit his grave when I visit the city at the start of November when my wife is treating for my birthday and am also interested to learn more if I can.

I understand Albert Bailey was based at Kirmington and I have found out his loss was at the start of the 'Big Week' and operation Augment targeting Luftwaffe production and I downloaded some info - but why was he buried in Berlin?

anything more that I can find out about Albert would be a bonus - excuse my ignorance

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barnsley · Air Commodore

SGT RONALD BAILEY 1603760 RAF AIR GUNNER

Thank you for your post. Sgt Bailey was the Mid Upper Gunner in the crew of F/Sgt R.A. Kingston Royal Australian Air Force. The crew arrived at Kirmington on 14/02/44 and took part in the following operations;

21.01.44 Magdeburg

27.01.44 Berlin

30.01.44 Berlin

15.02.44 Berlin

19.02.44 Leipzig-Failed to return

although their plane was brought down near Leipzig British aircrew war graves were concentrated in certain cemeteries after the war and Berlin was the one covering that particular part of Germany.

Hope this helps, B.

Martyn · Aircraftsman 1st Class

Thanks for your help

Date: Oct 5, 2016

Hi Adam

I have details and pics about FSGT Glasson, as he was the pilot in my grandfather's crew.

Please get in touch at scott.raymond@optusnet.com.au

Regards
Scott

Byford · Aircraftsman 1st Class

I am researching for the daughter of the late Flt/Sgt Jospeh Manuel DFM, who was born in Durham and served with 142 and 166 Sqdn. He was the tail gunner on the ill fated Leipzig raid on 19/20 Feb 1944 flying in Lancaster AS-J DV220.

His plane was shot down and three of the crew killed ( two on the Runnymead Memorial, one buried in the War Cemetery in Berlin.) Joseph was a POW in Lithuania for the remainder of the war. His medal and photographs of him with various crew members besides a Wellington and possibly a Lancaster are the only clue she has to the war record of her father. Any information as to how he won his DFM (gazetted July 1943), and any surviving crew members of AS-J DV220 ofr his previous crews would be of great assistance. I can copy and post the photos for any who would like to see them. One of them shows him with the Wellington Crew which has 'L' London on the nose.

Regards

Patrick Smythe

barnsley · Air Commodore

F/Sgt Joseph Manuel R.A.F D.F.M

Thank you for your post. F/Sgt Manuel DOB 25/12/1920 from Stanley, County Durham, a miner pre-war, was actually the Mid Upper Gunner flying in the crew of a Canadian pilot, F/Sgt Allen when they were shot down on the Leipzig raid. Their plane was brought down by a night fighter. He was probably on his second tour of operations having been awarded his DFM on 142 Squadron. He also appears to have served in North Africa at some stage. He took part in 7 operations against Berlin prior to the Leipsig raid, flying with 2 different crews. Please email me on mjc41uk@yahoo.co.uk if you require further information. B

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PFS · Aircraftsman 1st Class

Joseph Manuel was posted to 142 Squadron on 2 October 1942. He was a member in the crew of Sergeant Cook. They indeed served in North Africa as well.