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Flying Officer Alfred Ernest Bransgrove
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A E Bransgrove  Here is a copy of his grave marker photograph from the 166 Squadron website. He rests in Hamburg War Cemetery. Collective Grave 5A Row A1 Grave 10. If I can be of any further help please let me know dswallow4 'at' cogeco.ca



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Hi there. (James) Desmond Craig was my uncle. The grave marking you read was in his family cemetery. He is now buried at Durnbach Cemetery. If you want to know more let me know.



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It would be an honour to receive further information on your uncle Sgt. Craig to post on the RAF 166 Squadron website http://raf166squadron.com/

I have the squadron ORB's and other information that I would gladly share, if you have any questions.

You can contact me at dswallow4 'at' Cogeco.ca

I look forward to hearing from you.

Dave

 



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Hi Barnsley, re the information you have provided for Flt Sgt Tommy Lafferty 1550660. I have attempted to send you emails etc on the email address you provided without success. It's comes back with same reply i.e. This person has no account with yahoo, my contact email is j.donnan169@btinternet.com. My user name cosmo1



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Barnsley, are you aware of anyplace that there might be access to either German or RAF crash reports for ND 798, AS_C, Lost March 30/31 1944?
Thank you
Jeff

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ND798 BURNETT CREW NURNBERG 30/31.3.1944

Hi Jeff, email me on mjc41uk@yahoo.co.uk although I suspect we may already have been in touch.....



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Jeff,

Your best bet is the service file of the navigator, WOII Edmunds. As he has been deceased over 20 years one can easily obtain access to it.

F/Sgt Bannister passed away 5 or 6 years ago so quite some time to wait.

Dave

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Thank you for the suggestion alieneyes, where you I go about obtaining WO Edmunds file?
Thank you
Jeff

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Also, have sent you an email Barnsley

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Hello, I have been researching Andrew burgess leonard who I was named after, killed 13-06-1944 Holland. As I send this I look through my window at the church in Myddfai, how odd is that. Regards



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Thank you for the suggestion alieneyes, where you I go about obtaining WO Edmunds file?
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 Jeff,

Follow the directions here: http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/transparency/atippr/Pages/Access-information-military-files.aspx#tab2

You'll need to send them this photo as well to show he's been deceased longer than the required 20 years: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/186565583/lloyd-edwin-edmunds

Ask for anything pertaining to the loss of the aircraft, especially MRES reports.

Dave



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Alieneyes, thank you for the info, will see what info I can obtain, thank you very much!
Jeff

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Hi there, You've done an incredible job. I will definitely digg it and in my view suggest to my friends.I am sure they will be benefited from this web site.
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I am researching this plane crash, because my grandfather got in contact with 2 survivors of the crash. They were hiding themselves in a small village Brijdorpe. I have found a picture of his pilot officer Geoffrey John Reader Clark in the archives of het county Schouwen-Duiveland (crash site near Elkerzee) were the plane crashed on May 12th 1944. I also have a picture of the grave of Herbert Stanley Douglas Tulett on the British War Cemetry in Bergen op Zoom. 



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ra (tony) fellows wrote:

Assisting a friend, (Ian Tulett) in tracing any photographs of Herbert Stanley Douglas Tulett   Sgt R/G Number1711838 KIA 12/05/44, Lancaster ME779 AS=S.  I have all the gen re his death, Luftwaffe pilot etc etc however my friend holds no record/photographs of his Uncle. Stanley was from a family of 9, he and his siblings spanned both World Wars, all male, just 4 survived after 1945.

Any help would be appreciated.

Best Regards

Tony Fellows 01732 762618

RAF Ret V Force Bomber/Strike Command (Valiant/Vulcan  


 

Hi Tony Fellows,

 
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I am researching this plane crash, because my grandfather got in contact with 2 survivors of the crash. They were hiding themselves in a small village Brijdorpe. I have found a picture of his pilot officer Geoffrey John Reader Clark in the archives of het county Schouwen-Duiveland (crash site near Elkerzee) were the plane crashed on May 12th 1944. I also have a picture of the grave of Herbert Stanley Douglas Tulett on the British War Cemetry in Bergen op Zoom.

Kind Regards,

Marcel van der Wielen

Netherlands



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F/Sgt Herbert Stanley Douglas Tulett, Clarke crew misssing 12/05/44

Tony and Marcel, if you email me on mjc41uk@yahoo.co.uk I may be able to provide further information.



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Hi Rod,your Dad was the Mid Upper in the P D Saunders crew.I was in touch with the Bomb Aimer,Chambers but he has passed away now.Email me on MJC41UK AT YAHOO Dot CO DOT UK (all lower case).Thank heavens you didn't burn the log!!!


Hi there,

I'm looking for some information regarding RCAF pilot P. D. Saunders and his crew as I recently acquired what I believe, after some research, to be Saunders' flying helmet. If anyone could provide some details regarding his military career, the ops he flew during his tour (I know he was awarded the DFC and made 31 sorties between September 1944 and January 1945) or could share any image of him and his crew, this would all be very helpful and highly appreciated.

All the best, Baptiste



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Paul Duncan Saunders died in Ottawa on VE-Day in 1980. Obituary attached.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/191823549/paul-duncan-saunders

paul duncan saunders obit.pngpaul duncan saunders.png

 

List of ops included in Hugh Halliday's Honours and Awards database:

SAUNDERS, F/O Paul Duncan (J26371) - Distinguished Flying Cross - No.166 Squadron - Award effective 5 April 1945 as per London Gazette dated 17 April 1945 and AFRO 918/45 dated 1 June 1945.  Born 18 August 1921 in Torbolton, Ontario; home in Ottawa (Westboro, where he was a wood worker and electrician); enlisted there 30 April 1942 and posted to No.5 Manning Depot. To No.4 Manning Depot, 11 June 1942.  To No.5 Manning Depot again, 11 July 1942.  To No.3 ITS, 29 August 1942; graduated and promoted LAC, 24 October 1942 but not posted to No.11 EFTS until 21 November 1942; may have graduated 15 January 1943 but not posted to No.13 SFTS until 23 January 1943;  graduated and commissioned 14 May 1943.   To No.1 GRS, 28 May 1943; to Y Depot, 14 August 1943; taken on strength of No.3 PRC, Bournemouth, 13 October 1943.  Promoted Flying Officer, 14 November 1943.  Promoted Flight Lieutenant, 12 February 1945.   Repatriated 28 February 1945.  To No.16 SFTS, 15 April 1945. To No.3 Release Centre, 24 April 1945; retired 30 April 1945.  Award presented by Governor General, 28 February 1946.  Rejoined RCAF as a pilot, 1 September 1950 (206128), being granted rank of Flight Lieutenant on joining.   Placed on Supplementary Reserve, 31 March 1952; living in Ottawa at that time.  No citation other than "completed...numerous operations against the enemy in the course of which [he has] invariably displayed the utmost courage and devotion to duty."  Public Records Office Air 2/9059 has recommendation dated 12 January 1945 when he had flown 31 sorties (176 hours), 16 September 1944 to 22 January 1945 (sortie list obviously updated after first submission).

 

 

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16 September 1944 - Steenwyk

23 September 1944 - Neuss

26 September 1944 - Calais

5 October 1944 - Saarbrucken

7 October 1944 - Emmerich

12 October 1944 - Fort Frederick Hendrik

13 October 1944 - Duisburg

15 October 1944 - Wilhelmshaven

19 October 1944 - Stuttgart

23 October 1944 - Essen

28 October 1944 - Cologne

30 October 1944 - Cologne

31 October 1944 - Cologne

4 November 1944 - Bochum

6 November 1944 - Gelsenkirchen

11 November 1944 - Dortmund

16 November 1944 - Duren

18 November 1944 - Wanne Eickel

29 November 1944 - Dortmund.

3 December 1944 - Urft Dam

6 December 1944 - Merseburg

12 December 1944 - Essen

15 December 1944 - Ludwigshaven

21 December 1944 - GARDENING

24 December 1944 - Cologne

28 December 1944 - Munchen Gladbach

29 December 1944 - Scholven-Buer

2 January 1945 - Nuremburg

5 January 1945 - Hanover

6 January 1945 - GARDENING

22 January 1945 - Duisburg

 

 

This Canadian officer, as captain of aircraft, has taken part in 31 sorties against some of the most heavily defended targets in Germany.

 

Throughout these sorties, Flying Officer Saunders has proved himself to be a most proficient captain of aircraft and has inspired his crew by his total disregard for enemy opposition and determination to press home his attacks to the maximum advantage.

 

Under a calm and quiet manner he has set a fine offensive spirit in action and on more than one occasion has extricated his aircraft from a perilous situation by his skill and presence of mind.

 

For his devotion to duty, courage and magnificent operational spirit he is recommended for the award of the Distinguished Flying Cross.

 

 



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Hey Alieneyes, thanks so much for sharing this! I hadn't much luck searching internet for information about Saunders and this fills a few blanks.
Good to have a picture of his too. I'll be sure to share any interesting find with you, guys, if research reveals fruitful enough of course!

Best, Baptiste



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HI,  I am Nick Murray aged 75 and born on D-Day.  still hope to find a photo of my father Flt Sgt Peter Murray from Wick in Scotland who flew out of RAF Kirmington on the night of 2/3 January 1944. As far as I am aware their Lancaster bombed Berlin and came down in the North Sea returning home, all crew were reported KIA.

 

I believe the aircraft was quite new so it may not have been photographed.

I keep on trying

 

Thanks to the considerate people who keep this going

Nick Murray



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Hi

My Uncle, Sgt RJ Franklin was rear gunner in 166 Squadron with pilot Wing Commander Sidney Kenneth Knott. Shot down in Lancaster ED372. Was on return journey home when attacked by a night fighter. Lancaster was raked with bullets and on fire. My Uncle managed to get to his parachute whilst the plane was going down but had trouble fixing it. Apparently fixed the last clasp after he jumped. Saw the plane dive in flames but did not see it crash. Was taken POW in 1943 at Gross Tychow, Poland.



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Sgt RJ Franklin, Knott crew 166 Squadron

Thank you for your post. Your uncle and his crew were posted to 166 Squadron from 103 Squadron in September 1943. The aircraft crashed near Hildesheim. Your uncle was on the run for a few days before he was captured. mjc41uk@yahoo.co.uk



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Lancaster of 166 sqadron 001.jpg

 

166 Squadron Lancaster NG115 AS-U (for Uncle) My Father (Norman Lever) is second from the right in the photograph. I also have a list of the 30 sorties & Crew names along with both his log books RAF & RAAF

 

Regards Trevor.



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 Schubert crew

please post details of names of crew in photo (left to right).

thanks

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Hi

i believe my grandad was the wireless operator he was a POW also



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Hi Anonymous,

As per the photo above :-Lancaster NG115 AS-U 166 Sqdn Kirmington, December 1944

Left to right...

John Gill Flight Engineer, RAF Sergeant
Ragnar Hvoslee Navigator, Norwegian, Flying Officer
Odd Schyberg Pilot, Norwegian, Captain
Ted Davies Mid Upper Gunner, Sergeant
Jan Kirkhorn Bomb Aimer, Norwegian, Sergeant
Norman Lever Radio Operator/Air Gunner, Sergeant (My Father)
Tim Moule Rear Gunner, Sergeant

Regards Trevor

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Hi

Im a grandson of WAG Robert J Tredger of Kit Carsons crew and would love to find out more about my grandfather. The only info I could dig up online relate to a crash landing.

http://www.yorkshire-aircraft.co.uk/aircraft/yorkshire/york44/ng303.html

Ive also recently sent in for more to the Canadian library and archives, but that may take up to 14 months. I believe my uncle has his log book which I am going to try and check out next time I see him.

Any additional info, stories or pictures would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers



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Hi.  I am researching the life (and death) of Sergeant William Graham Morgan who served with 166 Squadron and, I believe, lost his life over Germany on 29 January 1944.

I have found his grave reference in Berlin but would welcome any other information about him or his family.

Michael.

mparchival@gmail.com



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My name is Jonathan pitcher youngest son of Donald Ernest Edmund pitcher who was shot down during a raid to

Berlin on 2/12/43 , he was a wireless operator. A member of the crew  was sgt Tommy Lafferty , I have a couple of 

photos if interested, I can send via email . 



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Jonathan pitcher wrote:

My name is Jonathan pitcher youngest son of Donald Ernest Edmund pitcher who was shot down during a raid to

Berlin on 2/12/43 , he was a wireless operator. A member of the crew  was sgt Tommy Lafferty , I have a couple of 

photos if interested, I can send via email . 

jpitcher7@icloud.com

 



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My name is Andrea Robson. I am researching the 12 siblings of my great grandfather. One of his sisters, Florence, married a gentleman named George William Clark. Their only child, as far as I can gather, was Geoffrey John Reader Clark. I believe he was just shy of his 21st birthday when the plane was shot down. I would be fascinated to know if their is any more information about  the incident. particularly what became of the survivors and if there is any record of what they may have said about the incident. Thank you

Andrea

 



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Hello,

I'm still looking for a photograph of the crew of F/O D.S. Kemp. Lost on operation 14/15 February 1945.

Rgds,

René



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I have a copy of photograph of Flg Off. Dennis Stuart Kemp on the RAF 166 Squadron website. But sadly no crew photograph. If you require more information please contact through website. https://raf166squadron.com/



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My wife's uncle, F/Sgt George Ian Turnbull, a wireless operator on AS-S HF483 , a Wellington of 166 squadron was lost on August 13th, 1943. he is buried in France and we have been to the grave. Do you have any other information on the flight and its crew etc.

thank you in anticipation,

roger Smith



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Sgt George Turnbull RAF

Hi, if you email me on mjc41uk AT yahoo.co.uk I can give you more info. Wireless operator, Lost on minelaying op Bay La Foret.

Cheer, M



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Hi - my father was also Flt Serg Frederick John Ricketts who was a navigator on JB151 in this sqaudron - It is not a common name therefore please ask your father if he is aware they ever met - Unfortunately my father dies when I was 13 and did not speak of the war so any information would be great. My father was shot down but was one of the lucky ones who survived but spent the rest of the war in Stalag Luft I prison camp. Any Information would be great.



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HI 

 

Wonder if you can help I am the great niece of Thomas (Tom) Moule who I believe is mentioned in your post along with the photo as Tim Moule - Rear Gunner, Sergeant - Lancaster NG115 AS-U 66 Sqdn Kirmington December in 1994.

He was unfortunately killed in April 45 while serving with the OTU 111 out of the Canada or the Bahamas - family version has it he was lost over Bermuda Triangle however I am unclear at present if this is correct, I and going to apply for war record however wondered if you had any further information concerning my Uncle, looking at the picture posted and comparing with family photos we area almost certain Tom's name has been transcribed incorrectly at some point from Tom.

 

Kind regards 



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Dear Andrea,

I have been researching pilot officer GJR Clark for sometime. You can reach me on my cell phone +31 6 2922 8512. I have also found some pictures in the Dutch archives of him and I am in contact with a family member of one of his crew mates who also died in the crash. I live in the Netherlands and my grandfather and uncle found 2 survivors of the crash in a nearby farm.

Kind Regards,

Marcel van der Wielen



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Hi anonymous,

Just come across the post from 2017. Sorry for the late reply (several years).

My great uncle Sgt Cyril Leon Caston (aged 20) was the crew flight engineer for the missions and he too went missing in LM722 coded AS-D on 23/09/44, from Kirmington to Neuss. The crew's Air Bomber was F/O Forbes Cameron. I HAVE A PHOTO OF HIM. I have had reports that Cyril was found badly burned, to the extent of being unrecognisable and passing away several days later. A very reputable researcher investigated all of the circumstances in 2012-13 and it is believed Cyril was initially interred by the Germans at the Poznan garrison cemetery, in an unnamed grave in 1944. Post war, subsequently he was exhumed and moved to a cemetery in France, still unnamed and it is at that point the trail goes cold... Unfortunately in 2014, my researcher too passed away.

A lady connected with the rear gunner Sgt Robert Leigh contacted me in 2015 but unfortunately, I did not have a photograph of Sgt Leigh (aged 19) to give to her.

Please feel free to email me on adaptarsolutions@hotmail.com for more information (Fraser)



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Just come across the post from a while ago. Sorry for the late reply (several years).

My great uncle Sgt Cyril Leon Caston (aged 20) 1627211 was the crew flight engineer for the missions and he too went missing in LM722 coded AS-D on 23/09/44, from Kirmington to Neuss. The pilot was P/O James Glyn Davies 175652. The crew's mid upper gunner was Sgt Roger Brockwell Ward (aged 20) 1808911. I have had reports that Cyril was found badly burned, to the extent of being unrecognisable and passing away several days later. A very reputable researcher investigated all of the circumstances in 2012-13 and it is believed Cyril was initially interred by the Germans at the Poznan garrison cemetery, in an unnamed grave in 1944. Post war, subsequently he was exhumed and moved to a cemetery in France, still unnamed and it is at that point the trail goes cold... Unfortunately in 2014, my researcher too passed away.

A lady connected with the rear gunner Sgt Robert Leigh contacted me in 2015 but unfortunately, I did not have a photograph of Sgt Leigh (aged 19) to give to her.

There also appears to be another enquiry on this site about F/O Forbes Cameron, the air bomb aimer.

Please feel free to email me on adaptarsolutions@hotmail.com for more information (Fraser)



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There is a photo of Sgt Roger Brockwell Ward - MUG - LM722

 

https://www.brightoncollegeremembers.com/roll-of-honour/roger-brockwell-ward.

 

He attended Brighton College 1939-1941.

 



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Hi, Sorry for the delay in replying, (I don't find this website easy to use ) My dad has your Uncle as SGT. Tim Moule Rear Gunner. He wrote the Crew Members names on the back of the group photo That's all the information I have, sorry. His flight log books only have the basic details, aircraft, pilot, & where to, bomb load, hours flown & day or night, no crew details. My Dad was transferred to Australia & the Far East  in 1945 & returned home in 1947.

Regards Trevor.

 



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Dear Andrea,

I have been researching pilot officer GJR Clark for sometime. You can reach me on my cell phone +31 6 2922 8512. I have also found some pictures in the Dutch archives of him and I am in contact with a family member of one of his crew mates who also died in the crash. I live in the Netherlands and my grandfather and uncle found 2 survivors of the crash in a nearby farm.

Kind Regards,

Marcel van der Wielen

My name is Andrea Robson. I am researching the 12 siblings of my great grandfather. One of his sisters, Florence, married a gentleman named George William Clark. Their only child, as far as I can gather, was Geoffrey John Reader Clark. I believe he was just shy of his 21st birthday when the plane was shot down. I would be fascinated to know if their is any more information about  the incident. particularly what became of the survivors and if there is any record of what they may have said about the incident. Thank you

Andrea

 


 



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Hi There,

 

wondering if you have any information on my father, Felix McTiernan, who was a flight sergeant, rear gunner, in 166 Squadron  ?

 

Kind Regards,

 

Felix McTiernan



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Hi my granddad was shot down in November 1944 heading to a raid in Berlin, and became a POW until the end of the war. He was in 166 squadron, Stanley Paterson, wireless operator. Any information anyone has is gratefully received, thank you.

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Hi my granddad Stanley Paterson was in 166 squadron, a wireless operator. He was based at kirmington and in November 1944 was in a Lancaster shot down over Germany. He spent the rest of the war as a POW with some of his crew, not all survived the Lancaster being shot down. I have some information from his record, where he was a pow for example. Anything anyone knows would be great to hear please. Thank you.



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