Lancaster LM138-shot down 23/24th June 1944

Howard622 · Flight Lieutenant

Lancaster LM138-shot down 23/24th June 1944

MikeH · Air Vice Marshall

Hi Howard,

can only find one claim for LM138, from the Nachtjagd War Diaries Vol 2, by Theo Boiten.

23-24 June 1944:

Uffz. Konrad Beyer: 1./NJG4 Calais-Boulogne area (ND): 2.400 m. 0.028 622 Sqn Lancaster LM138

Regards,

Mike H.

-- Edited by MikeH on Friday 12th of September 2014 02:50:51 PM

Howard622 · Flight Lieutenant

Hi Mike,

Thank you for identifying the night fighter pilot, I'll see what I can find out about Uffz Beyer.

Rgds

Howard

John W · Group Captain

Hi Howard,

Uffz Beyer survived the war with a total of 11 victories.

Cheers,

John.

Type683 · Corporal

Hi Mike H

My father was badly wounded that night returning from a raid on Coubronne with 35 Squadron.

I know 35 Squadron lost one aircraft that night. Given the circumstances my father described in his latter years his aircraft had one engine on fire and they dived steeply through cloud.

I've always wondered if the night fighter pilot that attacked them claimed the attack as a 'kill' or a 'probable'. The attack occurred over the sea just north of Dunkirk.

As I'm not familiar with the Nachtjagd War Diaries Vol 2, by Theo Boiten could you please advise if the book lists any probable claims for that night?

Cheers

Type683

MikeH · Air Vice Marshall

Hi,

Lancaster III ND734 TL-H of 35 Squadron was lost on the night of 23/24 June 1944 (Bill Chorleys BCL 1944). Shot down by a night fighter 11,000 ft in the vacinity of Dunkirk, but no time given.

The following claims are from Nachtjagd War Diaries.

Hptm. Joseph Krahforst 2./NJG4 St. Omer Ypes area (NE NF): 3000 m. 01.10 7, 35, or 156 Sqn Lancaster.

Ofw. Herbert Altner 8./NJG5 S.E Calais: 2.500 m. 01.11 7, 35, or 156 Sqn Lancaster.

Hptm. Werner Husemann Stab 1./NJG3 St. Omer Ypres area (NE NF): 3.700 m. 01.15 7, 35, or 156 Sqn Lancaster.

Lt. Manfred Scheunpflug Stab 1.NJG23 St. Omer Ypres area (NE NF): 3600 m. 01.20 7, 35, or 156 Sqn Lancaster.

Hope this helps,

Mike

Type683 · Corporal

Thanks for the quick reply Mike

According to the information on the attack the navigator noted the attack at 01.17hrs so from the information you've kindly provided it doesn't look like a claim was made.

Looks like I'll have to keep trying other avenues

Thanks again for your assistance

Cheers

Phil (Type683)

Howard622 · Flight Lieutenant

Hi John,

Thanks for the additional informtion, would he have been flying the Me110 or JU88 night fighter at this time? There appears to be liited information about this pilot on the web.

Rgds

Howard

PeteT · Wing Commander

Phil

No. 35 Squadron ORB's record that one aircraft was lost that night and one was attacked by a nighfighter, with the two air gunners being injured.

As you have not provided his name, I was wondering if he could have been one of the air gunners on ND916 rather than one of the ND734 crew.

Regards

Pete

[UPDATE: I have been advised offline that he was in fact one of the crew members of ND916]

-- Edited by PeteT on Saturday 13th of September 2014 04:50:24 AM

Type683 · Corporal

Hi Pete

I'm guessing Paul H updated you that Dad (Harry Furner) was indeed one of the two air gunners wounded that night on ND916 (TL-F).

The other gunner was Neville Farley (rear gunner).

Cheers

Phil (Type683)

John W · Group Captain

Hi Howard,

Until Auguast 1944 NJG 4 flew Me 110, Do217 and JU88. From Auguat to January 1945 the flew Me 110, and JU88 then until the end of the war JU88. So I can't narrow it down ant further.

My guess would be Me 110.

Cheers,

John.

Howard622 · Flight Lieutenant

Thanks John,

Difficult to narrow down which type of night fighter if they operated most types, unless one can see the official records.

Howard

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