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Edgard


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24 July 1944 LM643 PG-E took off from Dunholme Lodge for a mission against Donges Oil Plant some miles upstream St. Nazaire.
Most probably shot down by MaFlaAbt705 the crate crashed into the oil plant at about 1 o`clock regarding a british report from 1946
The Bomb Aimer and the Flight Engineer managed to bail out but drowned and washed ashore later.

All other crew member died in the crash and burried later at the La Baule Escoblac War Cemetery.
The Bomb Aimer was burried by the Germans with military honors at the locat cemetery at Montoir-de-Bretagne where he reamains.
The Flight Engineer was burried at the Pornic War Cemetery.

FO RAF Ronald William Orbell 30y 50234 Pilot Oxford, UK

 

FO RCAF Joseph John Kommes 22y J/35044 Navigator Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

 

FS RCAF David Matthew Murphy 20y R/176578 Air Bomber Glace Bay, Nova Scotia, Canada

 

FS RAF George Henry Lucas 20y 1713648 Wireless Op Bushey, Hertfordshire, UK

 

SG RAF James Rattray Scott 23y 1347303 Air Gunner Glasgow, UK

 

SG RAF Stephen Sinclair 19y 1593177 Rear Gunner Dunstan, Northumberland, UK

 

SG RAF John Ronald Ward unk. 610229 Navigator (all other unkown)

 

The crew was honored last year during a flight with Lancaster VR-A at Hamilton /CA

 


I have a good contact to the families of David Murphy, Joseph Kommes, Stephen Sinclair and James Scott
but could not find the families of Ronald Orbell, George Lucas and nothing known about John Ward, CWGC cannot help; all other official archives are not accessible for foreigners.

I would be very glad if someone can help to find out more about these three crewmembers.

Cheers,
Edgard



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alieneyes


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Edgard,

Orbell fails to show up in the UK BMD indexes as he was from Scotland. But there is a Ronald William Orbell who married Frances May Whiting at Oxford in the September 1939 Qtr.

Born 11/09/1914 Galston, East Ayrshire, Scotland.

You might want to register here and post a request for family members: www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php

Once you register, go to the Ayrshire sub board and post there. Very helpful people.

Dave

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